Sentinel Jake

aka Jake

  • I live in UK
  • I am Male

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You may be interested in Forum:SRTT subtitles, which contains all the subtitles from the game to save you having to type out quotes. 452, 2012-11-01T00:19:40Z (last edited: 452, 2016-12-31T19:06:11Z)

Thanks 452 for the subtitles, always glad to help:)
Sentinel Jake, 2012-11-01T12:27:54Z

Nice images!Edit

Good work with those brute images, we definitely need more screenshots! 452, 2012-12-08T18:21:43Z

Character infoboxEdit

I thought you might like to know that I just added a "weapons" field to the character infobox. 452, 2012-12-12T18:27:07Z (last edited: 452, 2016-05-01T21:47:42Z)

Weapons in Saints Row: The ThirdEdit

Weapons in Saints Row: The Third is not for random images for all weapons.

The gallery only exists on that page as a place to put those weapon icons that did not have a place elsewhere on the page. 452, 2012-12-12T19:11:27Z

Oh right. Sorry about that.
Sentinel Jake, 2012-12-12T19:26:15Z

Welcome back!Edit

Hey, haven't seen you in a while, good to see you back. :) 452, 2013-03-11T19:36:39Z

Hey mate, had some problems with my computer, and busy at collage. Will be visiting every once and a while but I'm having problems trying to add more stuff. Thanks for the welcome back. :)
Sentinel Jake, 2013-03-11T19:42:32Z
Oh, what problems are you having?
452, 2013-03-11T19:46:19Z
Couldn't log in. Got it fixed but cost me a pretty penny. I swear when tech goes wrong, it goes wrong. You've been busy adding lots of quality pictures.
Sentinel Jake, 2013-03-11T19:52:20Z
I have around 3500 more in my "sort through these and upload" folder.
I take a lot of screenshots, a lot of those are probably duplicates to delete. At the moment I've been trying to sort through all the high quality promo pics, working out which are already uploaded and which need replacing, but it's slow going.
452, 2013-03-11T19:57:58Z
3500??? I'll try to help but, well, your going to have your hands full.
Well, i'm hungry and it's time for me to go, and once again, thanks for the welcome back. But please take time uploading those photos, your taking so many screenshots.
Sentinel Jake, 2013-03-11T20:04:49Z
Haha, yeah. Well hopefully other people will help add them to articles as well. But like I said, most of those 3500 will probably be duplicates I need to delete - but there may be 1000 I need to upload eventually. It's only every now and then I go on a sort-and-upload spree.
See you later.
452, 2013-03-11T20:16:56Z

Nice picsEdit

Ui hud icon camera

Nice super homie pics! 452, 2013-08-30T21:20:46Z

Thanks mate :)
Sentinel Jake, 2013-08-30T21:23:44Z
Btw, you might want to use Special:MultipleUpload. :)
452, 2013-08-30T21:28:39Z

Userpage picsEdit

Nice pics!

Good to know you can freeze your co-op partner - do you know if the dubstep gun works on them?

BTW, you can have as many userpage pics as you like, but can you add Category:Non-article files to any pics which are not also for use in articles?

edit: oops, typo. 452, 2013-09-10T14:46:40Z (last edited: 452, 2013-09-13T01:15:59Z)

Add Category:Nonarticle files? Sorry but can I ask how you do that? I mean do you need me to put those images in the Non-article files manually after upload or is there a feature to do that? Really sorry but the instructions have got be a little confused.
Oh by the way, reguarding the Dubstep Gun, it does damage co-op partners if you hit them.
Thanks for the complement on the photos by the way:)
Sentinel Jake, 2013-09-14T13:18:03Z
You can either add to category normally after uploading, or you can use the category in the description while uploading, which will automatically add it.
452, 2013-09-14T13:26:59Z (last edited: 452, 2013-09-14T13:29:37Z)
Oh now I see, I can see in the gallery by clicking on More Info, thanks for the help:)
Sentinel Jake, 2013-09-14T13:39:00Z


Perhaps instead of referring to quotes, you should add the quotes themselves. 452, 2013-09-22T13:15:20Z

Problem is that I can't remember off by heart what the exact quotes are, and I don't like to put them in unless their word for word correct. I'll put them in as best I can from now on out, but I just don't like putting in stuff that I could muck up. I'll at some point go back through some of the quests and listen to the quotes so I could add them.
That's the problem with Saint's Row IV, there's no full dialogue page and I'll take months for something like that to be created.
Sentinel Jake, 2013-09-22T20:20:58Z
Forum:SRIV subtitles
Forum:SRIV Mission strings#Sorted Dialogue
452, 2013-09-22T20:32:48Z (last edited: 452, 2016-12-31T18:21:03Z)
Oh, my bad.
Thank you :)
Sentinel Jake, 2013-09-22T20:47:58Z

Removing referencesEdit

This this edit, you removed two references, and added a whole bunch of text without references. Please do not remove references again.

To see how character articles should look, see Benjamin King or any other character article overhauled by Moozipan Cheese 452, 2013-09-23T10:34:58Z

Alright sorry for the muck up and pointing out my mistakes. (we're only human)
However, I never heard at any point duirng We're Going to Need Guns that Pierce was promoted to second in command. I can't find anything about him being explicitly promoted and I even checked the subtitles page to see if The Boss said he was promoted. Forgive me if I'm missing something but I just wanted to know.
Sentinel Jake, 2013-09-23T12:44:28Z
Not being sure about him being second in command is not a reason to remove the reference.
Pierce flies a helicopter to pick up weapons and a bomb and drops them off at Shaundi's Ex's Apartment during We're Going to Need Guns.
452, 2013-09-23T12:58:51Z

Nice images!Edit

Nice images - we definitely need those ship location pics.

Btw, do the crew on the ship randomly say lines when you stand near them? I've heard that they're supposed to, and I have the subtitles for them, but they never randomly say them for me. 452, 2013-10-16T03:40:03Z

I've heard they're supposed to speak random stuff as well but I never happened to me once so it may be cut dialogue or there's a bug in the game. I've seen the subtitles as well and i'm not sure what's wrong.
Guess it's another glitch that Deep Silver needs to clean up along with the audio logs. I'll spend some time with the Saints on the Ship if they say anything but I've had no such luck.
Sentinel Jake, 2013-10-16T19:20:14Z


I was wondering if it would be possible for you to add a little more information when you're adding things to articles.


Judging by the cut sceens with The Protagonist, their main weapons of choice appears to be the Heavy Pistol and the Alien Rifle.

Would be better as

During cutscenes, The Protagonist uses the [[Heavy Pistol]]{{ref|'''Mission''': [[whatever mission]]}} and the [[Alien Rifle]].{{ref|'''Mission''': [[whatever other mission]]}}

This: Would be better as

|used = [[Matt Miller]]<br>[[Asha Odekar]]{{ref|'''Mission''': [[whatever mission]]}}<br>Police

And the same with this:
You haven't said when any of those weapons are used.

You're a good contributor, but no-one can easily verify any of the information you're adding, since you're not actually saying when in the game those weapons are used. 452, 2013-10-27T23:31:40Z (last edited: 452, 2013-10-27T23:32:22Z)

Nice work!
452, 2013-11-02T13:01:07Z
Hey, you're the one that runs this wiki like clockwork, I'm just simply helping. I was thinking that I missed something when I was doing sme of these updates, unfortuantly, Firefox was crashing so much on me and I was having serious troubles.
Wish Firefox didn't stop crashing but now that I've got Google Chrome, I should be able to make updates without issues now. Speaking of which, has anyone complained about Firefox crashing due to a script error? I've only had it with this wiki and not the others I use.
Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-02T13:29:53Z
No, no-one else has mentioned it, thanks for letting me know.
I'll check it out - which version of Firefox are you using and do you recall what the error was - or even better, can you start up Firefox again and tell me what it was? (You should be able to press ctrl-c to copy the error when it pops up)
edit: I normally use Chrome, but I test with Firefox 24.0 (Although it's downloading an update right now)
It's not telling me about any errors when looking at this page - are there any pages in particular which usually crash?
452, 2013-11-02T13:33:53Z (last edited: 452, 2013-11-02T13:38:57Z)
The version is 25.0 (x86 en-US), that's what it's says on the program files.
Firefox seems to be working as of now for me, so I'll need to get back to you on what the script error is when it crashes.
Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-02T13:44:15Z
Yeah, 25.0 is the latest, that's what I just updated to. (The version is also shown in "Help > About Firefox", btw.)
Problems that only happen sometimes are the worst problems, so the exact error message will definitely help me fix it if it ever happens again.
452, 2013-11-02T13:51:09Z
I don't know if it's the case, but it also said that I've installed my current version on the 30th of October, and I'm not sure if I touched this wiki on Firefox after the update.
So it's possible that the problems I've been having might have been before the update but I could be wrong and might on the current version. If the problem occurs again, I'll let you know what the error message is.
PS: Thanks for looking into this :)
Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-02T14:00:20Z

Weapon ReferencesEdit

Heavy Pistol shows how it should be done.

There was previously no need to use actual references for the descriptions as the images with the descriptions were visible, but once they're replaced, they need to be added a references. 452, 2013-11-08T17:23:15Z

Oh yeah I see, The Heavy Psitol image says how the saints use the handgun. Thanks for letting me know.
Easy to get caught out though.
PS: Getting your high resolution images put up.
Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-08T17:27:17Z (last edited: Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-08T17:28:44Z)
Sentinel Jake wrote
The Heavy Psitol image says how the saints use the handgun.
What are you talking about?
452, 2013-11-08T17:30:39Z
I was refering to the heavy pistols weapon discription and images in the gallery
"The handgun of choice for any Saint."
— Weapon Description [6]
Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-08T17:34:02Z (last edited: Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-08T17:35:00Z)
Yes, that reference already existed, you have to add the others when you replace the images.
452, 2013-11-08T17:37:11Z
God I must be tired as I'm all in a mess?
Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-08T17:40:30Z (last edited: Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-08T17:40:55Z)
Wait, do you mean references are needed in the description section in the Costumes table?
Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-08T17:45:49Z
From Thread:48624
I was just wanting to confirm something with you.
1) You want the weapon images for their individual skins replaced with the high res images?
2) Shouldn't the references be related to the friendly fire images as they have the description? The Heavy Pistol's link is to the high res image and that does not have the description in the image, and I've followed that format for all the images I've put into the individual weapon pages.
Just going to back off for now as it's only stressed me out only to find major errors and mistakes (references and images). Understand now that you've corrected the errors.
Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-11T19:37:24Z (last edited: 452, 2013-11-11T21:46:25Z)
It's mostly my fault for making the mistake in the first place, thanks for noticing it.
But it's allll fixed now.
452, 2013-11-11T21:46:39Z

Saints Variant PeacemakerEdit

I didn't know about this variant, where do you get it? 452, 2013-11-13T23:58:29Z

Oh sorry, just a rim jobs custom, no such thing. I'll fix it.
EDIT: Ok, it's now says Customised Peacemaker on the images, it's only a Saints variant by Rim Jobs modifying, cannot be found that way by normal means
Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-14T00:17:50Z (last edited: Sentinel Jake, 2013-11-14T00:22:14Z)
Oh ok, thanks.
452, 2013-11-14T00:19:21Z

Question about an imageEdit

There has been a question on Talk:Josh_Birk about File:Josh Birk with an AR.jpg. 452, 2013-12-29T01:32:02Z

False informationEdit

Please remember to check recent edits for false information.

When you edited earlier, these were the three most recent edits

452, 2014-01-26T15:54:28Z

452, can I request you to remove my Admin status please, i don't feel that I can keep up the pace of a true Admin, I'm already finding it stressful as it is and i've only recently been getting past my depression issues.
Sentinel Jake, 2014-01-26T16:00:01Z
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you'll still be around.
Here is the User Rights page: Special:UserRights/Sentinel Jake
452, 2014-01-26T16:03:46Z
Thanks for giving me a chance anyway.
Sentinel Jake, 2014-01-26T16:09:29Z

Shaundi tattoo outlineEdit

Hi Sentinel Jake, you added a photo, File:Shaundi in Saints Row The Third showing lower back tattoo removed.jpg, to the Shaundi article as a reference for the info "(the outline is still there)"

The trouble is, I can't see an outline of the tattoo in that photo. Maybe you could see it in-game but it didn't turn out well in the screenshot - would it be possible for you to take a closer image to better show the outline? 452, 2014-05-11T00:27:06Z (last edited: 452, 2016-08-05T22:01:30Z)

The Screenshot function for the Saints Row website produces images is of JPEG quality (not best quality) and I cannot seem to get any closer as I end up looking through Shaundi due to her getting too close or she just moves away.
I'm not entirly sure if there is an outline but I might be wrong.
Sentinel Jake, 2014-05-11T00:31:46Z (last edited: Sentinel Jake, 2014-05-11T00:34:31Z)
Perhaps you can use the Sniper Rifle to zoom in?
If you're not entirely sure whether there is an outline, why have you added that photo as proof that there is one?
452, 2014-05-11T00:35:11Z
If I aim the Mcmanus 2015 or other similar weapons at Shaundi, she either moves or crouches down and makes it harder to get an image of her back.
I could be wrong but I think the description could have an error in it. II'll might remove the image or change the description slightly, but I would like to try again to get better images on both SR:TT and SRIV.
Sentinel Jake, 2014-05-11T00:40:35Z

Re: ChatEdit

Pros and Cons ;) 452, 2014-06-04T00:43:11Z

Sentinel Jake, 2014-06-04T22:48:17Z

Reminder on last chat log and other remindersEdit

NPC's using only default Costumes and Skins. Change weapon names on NPC pages?

Edit: Yes, change the weapons to their specific default costumes on NPC related pages.

Add in images of Vehicles when possible and check for any missing Vehicles. Be sure to get other screenshots taken.

Fix the Pro and Cons to how It should laid out (see Re: Chat). Sentinel Jake, 2014-06-22T01:06:22Z (last edited: Sentinel Jake, 2014-06-22T01:37:33Z)

re: default costumes
Are there any other times other than The Case of Mr. X when an NPC uses something other than the default?
452, 2014-06-22T02:09:42Z
Nope. Every other cutscene has NPCs using the defaul costume, as The Case of Mr. X is the only mission where an NPC (Asha) uses a weapon that can have it's Costume changed (Quickshot Pistol). The only other weapons that have it's Costume changed is the Heavy Pistol and the RPG, and it's The Protagonist that uses them.
In He Lives, the Alien Pistol carried by the Zin Soldier and used by Keith David can use a different Skin (Gold or Saints Purple), but it can only use it's default costume as it's the only one.
So in short, it only looks like the Quickshot Pistol in The Case of Mr. X is the only weapon that can use a different costume in the hands of an NPC.
Sentinel Jake, 2014-06-22T12:15:34Z

Good NewsEdit

You should now be able to see a new "leave a redirect behind" checkbox when renaming files. :) 452, 2014-06-24T15:51:32Z

Excellent :)
Sentinel Jake, 2014-06-24T19:59:00Z

Ugly alien dudeEdit

  • build: strength 0, skinny 42, fat 13 (probably not important)
  • skin: frozen blue
  • age: 100
  • sex appeal: your choice.
  • features: 2 black eyes, deep pock marks, large scar 1-4, small scar 1-2
  • crown: 100 0 0 0 0 100
  • forehead: 100 0 0
  • brow: 100 100 100 0 100 100
  • eyes 100 0 100 100 100 100 0 0 0
  • eye color: white
  • ears: 0 100 100 0 0 0 40 0 100 0 0 0 0 0
  • cheekbones: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (cheekspacing=)100 100 0 100 100 0
  • nose: 0 100 100 100 0 (0s until nostril elevation=)100 100 0 100 0 100
  • mouth: (0s until lower lip middle height=) 100 0 100 100 0 0 0 50 100
  • chin: 0 0 0 100 0 0 0
  • jaw: 0 0 0
  • head: kung fu braid, iridescent 1
  • facial and eyebrows: nothing
  • cheeks: melancholy, bright neon green/lime 80% opacity
  • items: love bite
  • Sim suit - green 5, violet 5, violet blue 6
  • underwear - surprise me

452, 2014-07-29T21:58:07Z (last edited: 452, 2014-07-29T22:11:17Z)

Transcluding SectionsEdit

Since you've been using {{#LST: for references a lot recently, I just wanted to give you a personal heads-up that we'll be using {{Section}} for that from now on.

It'll work the same way, but instead of

  • {{#lst:Homies|Zimos and Shaundi}}

it'll be

  • {{section|Homie conversations|Zimos and Shaundi}}

(I'll replace all the current uses within the next few days) 452, 2014-08-27T02:02:36Z

Executive Privilege PackEdit

Are you sure that the "Vehicle No Damage" cheat is included in the Executive Privilege Pack?

Cheats in Saints Row IV has it listed as a normal cheat, with "vroom" as the cheat code. 452, 2014-09-15T21:42:02Z
Robohobo2481  added the no car damage part but I failed to check the cheats and test to see if it was true, so sorry, the "Vehicle No Damage" is a Base game cheat and not part of the Executive Privilege Pack. I've gone and fixed it now.
Sentinel Jake, 2014-09-15T21:59:25Z
Thanks for checking!
452, 2014-09-15T22:22:22Z
No problem
Sentinel Jake, 2014-09-15T22:34:05Z

Wraith or Attrazione?Edit

With these 3 images

Is this a Wraith, or an Attrazione customized to look like a Wraith? 452, 2014-09-24T16:27:28Z (last edited: 452, 2016-12-30T18:06:41Z)

I think I used the Wraith for those images.
The reason behind adding in that it could be a customised Attrazione in the name is because the Attrazione in SRIV had all the parts and can be repainted to look exactly like a Wrath.
Also noting that Attrazione article stated that "As the Wraith is a variant of the Attrazione in Saints Row IV, any Attrazione can be customised to look like a Wraith." I've also seen that while the Gateways call it a Wraith, the Phone Vehicle Delivery still calls it a Attrazione.
Sentinel Jake, 2014-09-25T15:08:31Z
Thanks, but I already knew why you used that title.
I'm aware that an Attrazione can be made to look identical to a Wraith, or I would be able to work out what is pictured myself. Unfortunately, the Wraith has no truly unique components.
I'm also aware of the Vehicle Delivery variant name glitch, as I'm the one added that information.
452, 2014-09-25T17:32:17Z (last edited: 452, 2014-09-25T17:35:36Z)


When adding descriptions to articles in future, please ensure that you put them below the "Description" heading, rather than above them. 452, 2014-11-12T04:39:17Z

Opps, sorry about that 452, was a stupid error on my part that day.
PS: I'm surprised that error wasn't spotted any sooner.
Sentinel Jake, 2014-11-12T12:48:52Z
Me too.
452, 2014-11-12T13:24:27Z
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