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References Edit

This article, along with Enter the Dominatrix, is currently setting the gold standard for upcoming articles! Both of them have complete references for all information, and hopefully will set the standard for all articles about Saints Row 4.
For those who are new to the wiki, with Saints Row: The Third, we were fairly laid back with requiring references, what we did was to just tag unsourced claims with {{ref?}}, and sometimes contacted the person who added that information asking for their source - but that simply didn't work, people never added references, and even today there are still many things which were added prior to SRTT's release which still do not have references, so we must take a more pro-active approach with ensuring that all information about Saints Row 4 is sourced.

  • Unsourced claims should be removed immediately, with an edit summary indicating that if there is a source for the information, it should be cited.
  • After removing the information, the person who added the unsourced claims should be contacted immediately, informing them that a reference is required.

-452 23:44, October 6, 2012 (UTC) (expanded 03:51, February 18, 2013 (UTC))

For reference for references, here are the official news pages:

-452 17:09, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

For reference, the E3 videos, and related articles

I recommending watching all of the videos in a row -452 14:04, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

"X in Saints Row IV" articlesEdit

Before the release of Saints Row: The Third, there wasn't any forward-thinking plans made, so the "X in Saints Row: The Third" articles were haphazardly created whenever someone felt like it, usually with poor results.
It seems like it would be better this time around to do things differently.
So, should we just create the whole set of "X in Saints Row IV" articles now, even though there is no information available yet, so there's a place to put information as it's released?
There's already a poll regarding what to do with WantedPages, Top 10 list:Creating articles. One solution discussed in the comments was to create an "empty article" notice template which could be shown at the top of articles created with little information, and that seems ideal in this situation.
Comments? Questions? Suggestions? -452 19:41, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

You know it took me several minutes to figure out what you meant by "X in Saints Row IV" but I understand now. Personally I think place holders should be created so information can be added as it comes out. Example, the Characters in Saints Row IV was needed since we know from promotional pictures at least three characters are back. These pages do not have to be added (linked) to the main page yet but the templates and layouts should be there so it is consistent. Zadidoll (talk) 03:01, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
But on Top 10 list:Creating articles, you said "I think as information becomes available pages should be created."
Isn't that the opposite of what you just said? -452 03:06, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
LOL Least in my head it makes sense. To me both should be done. Certain things should have placeholders now - even if not linked on the main page - while other pages to be created when information is released. Example, now: the characters page; later: a page for (example) Zinyak as having a placeholder for him now makes no sense since the name can still be changed by the developers. Only things that we know are for sure should have place holders - like a page for vehicles since we know that names of vehicles will be coming out, a page for weapons since we know names of weapons will be released. Does that make more sense? Zadidoll (talk) 03:32, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Since a user is trying over and over to create an article with a mispelled title and gibberish for contents, I am now creating the entire set of X in Saints Row IV articles, to avoid future problems. -452 16:31, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Main Characters Edit

So far we know other than The Protagonist along with Pierce and Kinzie Kensington. So far Oleg, Zimos and Angel have not been seen in anything released but it's still pretty early. So anyone know who the other characters are seen in the promotional pics? Zadidoll (talk) 02:11, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

A character that looks like Shaundi can be seen on the promo poster that was released with the trailer. But there are differences between her and Shaundi. Seeing as SRTT had two different endings, we will have to wait and see if the Kill Killbane ending is the cannon ending. Matt Seay (talk) 02:22, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
Steve Jaros confirmed the Save Shaundi ending is canon here: https://twitter.com/SteveJaros/status/320517632040243200 and confirmed the identities of the characters in the promo-image here: https://twitter.com/SteveJaros/status/315318008954380289 That is Shaundi. (unsigned: 24.18.255.125 05:47, 8 April 2013)
Thanks, 24.18.255.125! -452 13:18, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
Steve confirmed to me that Angel and Killbane won't be in the game but Killbane's "presense will be sensed." (Yes, I have this on audio.) Oh and at least five years has passed between 3 & 4. Matt is the new character's handler. (Sorry, late exhausted to think of her name off hand.) there was so much. Going back to play more tomorrow to get more info. Oh and lots, LOTS to do in this game. We discussed expansion packs for 4 and possibly the future for a Saints Row 5. Oh and a side game that never came to pass involving.... Well lets just say wish that stand alone would have came out instead of 3 THEN 3 a year later. Lol --Zadidoll (talk) 06:38, June 12, 2013 (UTC)


Neat Little InterviewEdit

Hey guys, check out this link: http://blastmagazine.com/the-magazine/boston-local/pax-east-2013-interview-saints-row-iv/.

The interview takes place at PAX East 2013, and previews some of the highlights of Saints Row IV including a weapon that makes people swell up like balloons and explode. I don't know about you but I'm already anxious for the 4th game to arrive. -TalkNShoot 20:21, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

AchivementsEdit

As they have been leaked would it be a good idea to do a SR:IV achivements page? El Ieuan (talk) 14:41, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

I say go for it. You should use at least one of the other Achievement pages as a guide. -452 14:44, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
That page was a complete mess, so has been deleted, feel free to try again. -452 15:58, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
"Achievements and Tropies in Saints Row: IV" and "Achievments and Trophies in Saints Row: IV" have been deleted. Please add information to Achievements and Trophies in Saints Row IV. -452 16:47, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
Me and my bad spelling El Ieuan (talk) 16:52, April 14, 2013 (UTC)


Commander In Cheif EditionEdit

Deep Silver just announced the Commander In Cheif Edition of Saints Row IV. If you preorder you get the "Merika Weapon", Uncle Sam Suit and The Screaming Eagle Jet. Matt Seay (talk) 06:33, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

I do not see that announcement: http://www.deepsilver.com/en/news/ -452 15:23, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
It was on the Official Saints Row Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/SaintsRow?fref=ts Matt Seay (talk) 17:28, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
Intresting a gun which is baseicly all guns with a American Flag disign(and its spelt 'Merica) a     intresting looking suit and a new VTOL El Ieuan (talk) 03:15, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
Yep that is gonna be awesome. I am glad I could bring this info to the wiki. Matt Seay (talk) 05:34, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

PAX DemoEdit

Have you seen this video it shows some stuff about the game such as the Inflat o Ray Dubstep gun and the Infuego XL which is the monster truck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzRHYGcdKc (unsigned: El Ieuan 17:09, 9 May 2013)

Look at this http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/14876/article/saints-row-4-box-art-revealed-hail-to-the-chief-video-series-launches/ Scroll down the page a little (unsigned: User:El Ieuan 23:21, 25 May 2013)

Cover artEdit

I have seen the cover art all over the internet. It features the Boss, now the President, sitting in a chair with aliens and all kinds of other chaos behind him with Kenzi on one side of him and another woman on his other. Matt Seay (talk) 03:38, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah i noticed that im suprised it hasent been added to wiki El Ieuan (talk) 10:22, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
I'm very surprised that neither of you have added it to the wiki. -452 14:52, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
I'm even more surprised that it hasn't even been posted on the official website: saintsrow.com -452 15:02, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
I know right. If I can find a qaulty picture of it I will post it on the article. Matt Seay (talk) 23:56, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
Lady on the left looks like Shaundi.(Hangingmanpeter0 08:28, June 5, 2013 (UTC))

Super PowersEdit

In the PAX teaser they showed off a couple super pwers, such as "Blast", which freezes everything around you, "Telekenisis" or TK as they call in, which you can move things with you mind. "Flight", "super speed" were also shown off as well as "super jumping" I think these powers need to have their own articles. Matt Seay (talk) 18:28, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Special:Wantedpages -452 18:43, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Game releases on 22/08/13Edit

On steam they say the game releases on the 22nd of august, seeing as this isn't on the page, I thought this information should be added. Just to let you know I live in the UK, so it's probably a european release date. Gangr (talk) 23:19, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Film grainEdit

The entire game is covered with a "film grain" feature, which can be disabled in the options. It's even called "Film Grain", so I'm unsure whether this is supposed to be a clue, or just because that's the appearance of the filter.
I'm not sure where to put this trivia, since we don't actually have a "Game Options" page. So, I think I'm going to make one. Menu, Options, Any other ideas? -452 02:32, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

I'm still convinced that they're trapped in a virtual world. If you walk around Steelport you see signs about reboot is death as well the simulation is still going strong (or something to that effect). Plus how DID Kenzie escape while Matt couldn't? It doesn't add up. This along with a few other reasons are why I'm not completely convinced that this is the last Saints Row game. They can reboot the series by retconning SR3 & SR4. Zadidoll (talk) 06:25, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
I didn't notice a film grain throughout the entire game; is it turned off by default? I'm wondering if it's some kind of joke feature, as the first Mass Effect has a film grain that caused a great deal of complaints, and this game does like its Mass Effect references. I don't know if we need a Game Options page - couldn't this trivia just be listed on this article? – Moozipan Cheese(talk page) 16:35, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
It's turn on by default for me. The effect is pretty subtle unless you're actually looking for it - it's nothing like the overlay used in Gangsta's in Space.
I really think we do need a page, since: it's a feature of the game, and there's a bunch of stuff in the options that people may overlook. I'm thinking "Menu" page, that way we can cover everything in every menu. We've got the Cellphone menu covered, but not the others - I'm not sure why I didn't think of this years ago. -452 13:47, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Original Plot? Edit

The original plot of SR4 was supposedly created before SR3 was released, right? And the whole Zin Empire and simulation thing was going to be the plot of the SR3 expansion... So what was the original SR4 plot? Campaign trail and then end in being president? Serve the whole game as president? Or something else? (unsigned: 98.165.130.180 04:57, 26 August 2013)

  1. We don't know, this would be a great question to ask Steve Jaros.
  2. Perhaps we will find out in the Enter the Dominatrix DLC.
  3. Sign your posts with ~~~~. -452 13:24, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
I now have the answer: Ultor had cloned Genghis Kang, Adolf Hitler, and Cleopatra, who would lead the rival factions in the game. (from The Vertical Slice Challenge talk on GDC Vault)
You're welcome. -452 01:48, December 21, 2017 (UTC)


Matrix comparison Edit

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This trivia section current contains a long list of things in the game which are references to The Matrix.
Do we really need to enumerate these similarities? The entire concept of the game was inspired by and intentionally similar to The Matrix, so it should be no surprise to anyone that there are a number of similarities. Trivia sections are historically for things which people may not know, not that pointing out the colour of the sky.
However, everything in the trivia section is technically accurate, so even though it's wildly unnecessary, I can't just remove it without discussion.
I also can't think of anywhere else that this section could be moved to. Apart from a blog post - which seems like the best solution at this point.
Does anyone else have any ideas about this section, either way? -452 13:40, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

An anonymous user removed the information completely - which would be a nice way to solve the problem if I were the type of person to ignore vandalism when it suited me. But unexplained removal of valid information is still vandalism when if I don't agree with the content, so I restored it. -452 11:08, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Game of the Century Edition Edit

Hello, I found on store Saints Row 4: Game of the Century Edition. And I want ask, if this edition include all DLCs, or some missing, like in Saints Row The Third: The Full Package.

Thank you (unsigned: CSGF1995 - 2014-07-19 12:16:44)

Hello, could you please scroll up to the top of the page, read the message there, and then tell me what it says? Thank you. -452 (talk) 13:38, July 19, 2014 (UTC)

Saints Row IV confirmed for next generation consolesEdit

This title has been confirmed for re-release/port to the next generation consoles the same day as Gat Out of Hell.

Red Polar Bear Ranger (talk) 07:35, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

I wonder if Volition brings back the SR3 vehicles that were shown in the PAX demo & some trailers in the Re-Elected version?

WikiaIvan1997 (talk) 18:33, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Game freeze bugEdit

I've removed a paragraph about a vague bug supposedly in the game which freezes people's consoles every 5-10 minutes. I've never experienced it, therefore it must not be a chronic problem with the game itself: I think it is more likely a problem with some people's consoles, but I do not know enough details to speculate about the cause, as it could be literally anything.
The note ended with "At this point in time, there is no known way of fixing this on the console systems.", implying there is a known way to fix it on PC, but says nothing about how to do so.
While it would be appropriate to include a note regarding a fix for a known bug, such as "clear your console cache" or something, it's not useful to note that some people may experience freezes: the same could be said with any game, and "turn it off and then back on again" is the normal solution.
With the current information, it would be more appropriate to post this as a blog post to ask others if they've experienced it, under what circumstances, and for them to list any steps that they have tried to fix it. -452 23:47, December 6, 2015 (UTC)

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