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Best Laid PlansEdit
At least "Best Laid Plans" is different than Best Laid Plans..., although we're still going to need "did you mean ..." lines on both. Sometimes I wonder if the devs have even played Saints Row. -452 02:34, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
MissionsEditThere are 37 Missions, seven Loyalty Missions and 37 Co-Op Missions in Saints Row IV. There are also 32 Activities and 32 Co-Op Activities. I haven't added these to the main Missions page at this time. Zadidoll (talk) 22:37, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Cool - do you have all the names? If so, feel free to add them. -452 22:43, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I notice that side-quests aren't listed. But I think it's very interesting that the statistics still call them "Missions", while the Cellphone/Hub calls them "Quests". I'm not sure whether we need to rename the article to "Quests in Saints Row IV". -452 13:05, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
So, we know that Missions are called Quests, and there are "Side Quests" which are optional story missions which unlock rewards - and probably effect the ending, if the Achievement titles are anything to go by.
Obviously, the Missions are going to unlock other missions, as well as unlocking side quests, so we've going to have another interesting mission flowchart.
I expect this article to devolve into a confusing list with absolutely no structure within a day of the release of the game.
I'm going to say in advance: If you want to help improve this article, then after every Quest, you should note down which Side Quests become available. -452 12:51, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe we should put this in a note at the top of the page, so all users see this. – Moozipan Cheese(talk page) 13:28, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
- I was thinking about it, but can't think of a good way to word it, would you care to give it a shot? -452 13:34, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
- -452 15:15, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
We've discussed in the chat regarding how the names shown in the quest menu don't always correspond with the name shown at the end of the mission. However, I've noticed that the name shown at the end of the mission does correspond to the names in achievement descriptions.
So, at this stage it would appear that the names shown at the end of the mission are the actual names. Confusing, because you don't know what mission you're playing until it is over.
I've also noticed that some Primary Quests have multiple objectives. Meaning the Primary Quest are not analogous to Missions.
And what this really means for us is that the page is going to devolve into a complete mess in no time, and we've going to have to move a whole bunch of misnamed articles.
I'm going to be hands-off until we know definitively, then I'll clean up the entire page. Others are welcome to try their hand at it during the meanwhilst. -452 21:42, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
- New information from youtube- usingwhs - side quests number 1
- The Quests name for Zero Saints Thirty is Purple Ops. It shows "Zero Saints Thirty" as the completed objective.
- Quests and missions are different things.
- Quests may contain multiple objectives, such as missions, activities, or challenges
- The Quest name is the primary name.
- When you start a Quest, you start a mission?
- I'll update the table. -452 16:47, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
- ...Bloody hell. Also, did they really have to go and name "The Saints Wing"'s Quest "Hail to the Chief", the same name as a Saints Row 1 mission? – Moozipan Cheese(talk page) 17:25, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
- The other thing which people need to do on first play-though is after starting a mission/quest, attempt to verify the name and status as mission/activity, either by going to the Quests menu and checking what is active, or by exiting the mission and viewing the failure screen. Also, if you ever get random phone-calls, also attempt to "exit mission". -452 04:36, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Hopefully, I'll be able to get a lot of clarity from the titles anyway.
- I've reformatted the page again to make it a little easier for others to edit. I don't have time to watch all of these mission videos, so I'm going hands-off, hopefully others will fill in the blanks. -452 17:17, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Good news! Quest names are shown when you save. Saving while in the White House displays "Purple Ops" as the last Quest completed. Also, the game files for missions are complex, but I can see how they all relate. -452 02:34, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
New problem: The "next" field in the infobox, was always intended to be used to show what must next be completed in the storyline.
As much as I dislike forced activities, they are unfortunately part of the story, even more so in Saints Row IV, and although it is the mission infobox, and technically the next mission after "Power Up CID" is "Miller-Space", it is impossible to start Miller-Space without first doing Genki's MOM.
In Saints Row: The Third forced activities are double-counted as missions, is this the case for Saints Row IV? -452 12:07, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
- No. Personally, I keep a bunch of saved games handy so I can reload old ones to play certain missions. -452 (talk) 12:50, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
- The DLC missions can be replayed, but the regular missions cannot (unless you join a Co-op game that has not progressed through the storyline as much), so only a limited amount of missions can be replayed. Like what User:452 said, keeping multiple saves is the best way to quickly reload missions. Just keep in mind that you have a limited amount of saves so use them wisely. Sentinel Jake (talk) 13:44, February 6, 2014 (UTC)