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Sudden blackouts? Edit

While doing this (which for hard is a pain...) the screen would occasionally do the 'stack of guns' wipe and slightly reset, moving me a little away from where I was with no notice or message or anything. Any ideas why? (SR3) --Azaram (talk) 13:18, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that usually happens if the protagonist gets stuck under a car or similar, I had this happen to me during Insurance Fraud also. -452 20:09, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Seth and Howie Cheatem Edit

While running around comparing SR1 and SR2 locations, I came across the reason that Seth was thought to be Howie Cheatem...there's actually a Howie Cheatem sign right outside his office. So since most people don't have access to the game files to know he is called Seth, they would assume the sign refers to him. Especially if they hadn't heard Cheatem's radio ad to know he sounds completely different.

Seth's office is in Chinatown, in a large building with a sign reading "MAO-TAO Trading" and "Chinese Imports" on it. If you go around the side to where Insurance Fraud starts, you'll find a "Howie Cheatem: Attorney at Law" sign just above the enterable doors. These doors lead to a lobby with two elevators and another door straight ahead. Next to the door straight ahead is another Howie Cheatum sign.

The elevators can't be used, so if you go forward you'll end up in an asian-themed waiting room which then leads to the office we see Seth in during his cutscene (which, by the way, has an impossible window when you consider the building's architecture from outside).

There are two framed certificates on the wall, and they aren't for Seth or Howie Cheatem. One reads:

American Law Mail-in (illegible) Certification
(illegible city name), Kentucky
This is to verify that
(name somewhat illegible, but it's something like Kim Cheng-Fang)
Has paid in full to
receive his lawyer's degree

The other reads:

Ambulance Chaser of the Year
This award is for
(name appears to be the same Kim Cheng-Fang name as the other)
Has chased many many many
ambulances in search of victims.

It could be that these are just generic law images that Volition assumed no one would read closely (though Kim is typically Korean instead of Chinese, the office is in Chinatown and the name Kim Cheng-Fang would loosely mean "Gold Success Honest"). I'll have to check to see if they appear elsewhere. Though it did cause me to remember that Seth never says the degrees on the wall are his, just that he worked on them. Given the location of the office on the ground floor, he may in fact just be the secretary and happened to forge the degrees for the actual lawyers at the office.

Alternatively, he is a conman through and through and doesn't even work there and is just conning The Protagonist, assuming that The Protagonist will not look closely enough at the degree to realize it has an asian name on it.

Alternatively alternatively, the degree isn't forged at all and we're not supposed to pay attention to the name on it, but rather the joke is that he spent five months working on earning a mail-in degree from Kentucky and is now attempting to be a real lawyer.

Regardless, we know he's not Howie Cheatem because his voice is heard on the radio is entirely different, and we have precedence for people being in offices with other people's names on them (Dr. Raymond Gonzales is in an office with a Legal Lee sign outside of it). I'm also making the assumption that he's probably not Kim Cheng-Fang since he's not asian (though I suppose he could have taken his mail-in course under that name for some reason). As such, since the game files call him Seth I don't see any problem sticking with that since it's the only concrete name for him.

As a side note, in SR2 there is a sign in Filmore across the street from a Brass Knuckles that reads "____, Cheatum, & Howe" (I forget the first name up there, and Cheatem is spelled with a U now, but I took this as an indication that the actual Cheatem might have partnered with two others to form a larger law firm downtown between SR1 and SR2). Miracle Max (talk) 01:22, December 27, 2013 (UTC)

I just checked Legal Lee's actual office Downtown, and all his certificates have the name "Cornelius Mockup" on them (even the nameplate on his desk says "Prof. Mockup - Attourney"), so we can probably ignore the names on the room assets.Miracle Max (talk) 01:38, December 27, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I've always expected that Seth works for the Howie Cheatem law firm, just as Gonzales works for Legal Lee's.
I noticed that you switched between Cheatem and Cheatum in the first paragraph.
Check the game credits for the names of the degrees - that's usually where they come from.
I expect the first word you're missing there is "Dewey" - it's such a popular fake law firm name that it has a wikipedia page: Dewey, Cheatem & Howe - I doubt the "Dewey, Cheatum & Howe" sign is related to "Howie Cheatem", they were probably added by different people. -452 (talk) 01:45, December 27, 2013 (UTC)
It's definitely "Howie Cheatem" in SR1 and "Dewey, Cheatum, & Howe" in SR2. I hadn't heard that joke before, but it makes sense so they're probably not connected. I also replayed the Legal Lee cutscene and the "Professor Mockup" nameplate is actually gone from his desk during the cutscene but is still there if you visit the room. I'm guessing Cornelius Mockup was a placeholder name when they designed the room.Miracle Max (talk) 04:41, December 27, 2013 (UTC)

award caps? Edit

There seems to be a per-collision limit to how much cash a combo makes, and after reaching it, further height and distance will no longer increase cash award. In SR4, a single fall without hitting any cars will max out at $10k. Hitting any one car increases the cap roughly 20k, though not sure what the variable range is or the determing factors. DokEnkephalin (talk) 22:16, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

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