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This page covers being civil when communicating with other users, see Saints Row Wiki:Discussions for other discussion policies.

As with all Discussions policies, the Civility policy applies everywhere.

Unacceptable behaviour[]

Over the years, this list has become wide-ranging to cover many things people have done.

No-one acting in good faith and communicating in a polite or civil manner is likely to be found in violation of the civility policy.

These things may be allowed by Wikia Staff, and acceptable on other Wikia wikis, users who think that these things are acceptable are are not welcome here. See also: wikipedia's page on Civility.

  • slurs
  • insults
  • bullying
  • harassment
  • name-calling
  • derogatory terms
  • personal attacks
  • personal threats
  • personal comments
  • posting private information
  • lying
  • legal threats
  • false accusations
  • ill-considered accusations of impropriety
  • accusing fellow editors of breaking the law
  • accusations of "anger", "annoying", "sadness", etc, see #Trolls
  • ascribing motives and putting words in people's mouths, see #Trolls
  • quoting another editor out of context to give the impression they hold views they do not hold, see #Trolls

These things are not welcome in any form, in any place. If you engage in any form the above against any member of the Saints Row Wiki, including on the wiki, on Wikia, on the internet, or in real life, you are not welcome on the Saints Row Wiki.

Users who do any of these things may be given a warning, or may be immediately blocked, on a case by case basis.

Depending on the situation, messages violating this policy may be removed, or may be left intact as evidence.

  • Someone whose sole purpose on the wiki is harassment may have their messages removed entirely.
  • Someone who was previously an editor in good standing will likely have their messages left so it is not overlooked in future.

In all cases, the removal of vandalism is at the discretion of admins. See Saints Row Wiki:Discussions#Deleting.

Harassment[]

  • Do not, ever, harass other users with insults, abuse, or personal attacks.
  • If someone has harassed you, they will be blocked from editing. If you harass them in return, you are breaking the same rule, and get the same punishment.
  • All personal attacks will receive a 1 month block.
  • It doesn't matter "who started it", if they are wrong then you will also be wrong if you do the same thing.

Vulgarities[]

If you wish to use slang and vulgarities in discussions, feel free.

It is okay to say "I fucked up" or "I'm an idiot", but not when directed towards other individuals, such as "you fucked up" or "You're an idiot".

It's also acceptable to say "Volition fucked up", but avoid directing insults at specific developers.

Communication[]

Anyone is welcome to contact other users for any reason related to the Saints Row Wiki, including to inform them of ways to improve their editing, or to inform them of local wiki policies.

However, all contact should be civil, and constructive. Where possible, instead of saying "Don't do that", say "This should be done this way".

Always ensure that the information you are giving other users is correct, especially when telling them they are not doing something correctly.

Civilly contacting other users about their edits cannot be considered "harassment".

Keep discussion related to the wiki, or to that user's edits to the wiki.

  • Do not contact users of the Saints Row Wiki regarding issues unrelated to the Saints Row Wiki.
  • Do not make irrelevant personal comments about another user, even if that information is publicly available via a user's links in their bio.

There are obviously exceptions. If a user puts "I am a vandal" in their bio, or posts "I'm going to vandalise the Saints Row Wiki", then that is relevant to their edits.

Neutrality[]

"Polite" and "Rude" are not a binary. They are at opposite ends of a spectrum of civility of which neutrality is in the middle.

Factually stating what someone has done is not rudeness. The absence of politeness is not rudeness. The lack of sugar-coating does not make something "rude".

Everyone should be treated civilly and neutrally, but nobody is "owed" politeness.

Polite Neutral Rude
Could you please move? You are in the way. Get out of my fucking way.

Respect[]

See Respect

Anyone who has played the Saints Row series should understand that you start with 0 Respect, and that your actions earn you Respect.

From https://www.google.com/search?q=Respect

a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

Nobody is "owed" Respect unless they have done something to earn it.

Edit Summaries[]

Some users choose to insult other users indirectly via Edit Summaries. This is cowardly, passive-aggressive and inappropriate. Anyone wishing to comment on the quality of another user's edits should contact them directly, and do so civilly.

Since all edits should be positive and constructive, Edit Summaries should be positive and constructive also.

See Saints Row Wiki:Edit Summaries for more details about how to use Edit Summaries.

Discrimination[]

Discrimination in any form is not welcome on the Saints Row Wiki.

People should be judged for no reason but their deeds.

All forms of discrimination are forbidden, including, but not limited to:

  • skin colour
  • hair colour
  • race
  • species
  • citizenship
  • national origin
  • spelling
  • religion
  • gender
  • gender identity
  • gender presentation
  • sexual orientation
  • age
  • body size
  • disability
  • appearance

Wikia Staff allow many of these forms of discrimination, but the Saints Row Wiki does not.

Trolls[]

Trolling is the act of attempting to provoke a reaction.

Common troll tactics include invoking emotive language, asking irrelevant questions, feigning ignorance, and excessively arguing. When confronted, trolls will often accuse the other person of doing exactly what they themselves are doing, ignore what has already been said, misrepresent what the other person has said, and reverse Cause and Effect to claim that the other person was the instigator.

  • The point of this wiki is to improve articles. Useful contributors are people who add content to articles and contribute to talk page discussions.
  • Some people like to cause drama, whether it be by arguing, trolling, or making unhelpful edits.
  • Users who do nothing but argue without editing articles may be deemed as having no purpose other than to cause drama, and may be blocked for trolling.
  • There have been users in the past who have deliberately broken every rule once to waste the time of administrators by giving them a warning. Users who appear to be doing this will be instructed to read the policy pages, and will lose the privilege of a first-offence warning.

See also: Saints Row Wiki:Blocks#Trolls

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