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Posted by 452

It's a well known fact that Wikia never bothered to complete these "New" forums.

Wikia have now decided that instead of finishing it, they're scrapping it and replacing it with a new feature which looks like twitter.

All wikis that use the New Forums will be automatically switched over to the new "Discussions" feature. As such, I will be transferring all existing New Forum threads back to the old Forum, and disabling the New Forum.

I will be performing the transfer via import, so that all usernames and timestamps will be correctly attributed to the poster. All previous old-style forum posts which were transferred to blog posts will be transferred back to the old-style forum.

I will be fully-deleting all previously soft-removed off-topic comments ahead of time, as there is no way for me to automatically determine whether a comment has been soft-removed when performing the transfer.

Wikia has not yet revealed their timeline, so there is no immediate rush, but I will likely be performing this migration within a month or two.

Users are welcome to continue posting to the forum up until the migration takes place - the transfer will be done semi-automatically on the final day, so no "new" posts will be lost. 452, 2016-09-20T03:08:43Z
(last edited: 452, 2016-10-03T19:41:01Z)

Update: the hardest part of the forum-reformatting script is complete.
The next step is extensive testing.
452, 2016-10-05T14:04:14Z
Testing has revealed a minor problem, which I knew about in the beginning: getting the revision order correct.
My draft notes acknowledged the problem, but then my implementation kinda skipped over that issue.
But I'm glad the problem occurred the way it did, because it was obvious to notice, and if it had failed silently, I may not have noticed it.
Edit: Nope, I implemented my original idea correctly, revision order is correct, the problem is just nbsps and other &s
And, as usual, non-breaking spaces fuck things up completely, so I need to replace all special characters.
Luckily, I can copy and paste my htmlentities.js script - but the point is that I shouldn't have to clean up junk left which should have been encoded when the page was saved.
452, 2016-11-03T19:08:52Z
(last edited: 452, 2016-11-04T00:05:46Z)
And we're back. I'll recategorise all posts manually before deleting the New forums. -452 11:34, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

For anyone interested, here is the list of transfers:

-452 17:09, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Now that all threads have been transferred and sorted, all the threads have now been deleted. -452 17:37, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Wikia Staff have now disabled Special:Forum, as requested -452 19:38, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
I believe I have now updated all links to Special:Forum, and Board:whatever - it may be possible that I missed one or two, I'll do a recheck once the database dump updates
I've also created redirects for all of the old Thread links, so that all external links are honoured. -452 21:26, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

When Message Wall is disabled, all of these redirects will have to be updated, as "Thread:X" links will no longer auto-matically redirect to "Message_Wall:X". -452 23:23, August 7, 2017 (UTC)

Done. -452 18:40, August 20, 2017 (UTC)

Wow. I just noticed that Discussions has been sneakily enabled on another wiki where I am an admin, and wow: it's even worse than I imagined. Wikia really know how to out-do themselves.
Way back in my first comment above, I said I would be "fully-deleting all previously soft-removed comments", so that they didn't carry over - Wikia didn't bother, and have transferred over all deleted/removed forum comments, without any way to fully delete them.
The ability to fully delete something is something that admins have always been able to do. Discussions takes that ability away.
They've also recently added image uploading to discussions - completely bypassing file pages and filename blacklists. Proving once again that Discussions is a tacked-on kludge which is does not function in the spirit of a wiki.
I'm so glad we will not be having that nonsense here. -452 16:20, November 22, 2017 (UTC)

Even after discovering that I had scheduled the user_blog redirects for deletion at the start of this year, I completely forgot that these thread redirects also had to be deleted.
These Thread redirects have now been deleted, the only remaining thread redirects are for Message_Wall threads, and they will be deleted whenever I remember after September.
-452 05:33, January 23, 2018 (UTC)

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